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romney, what he does it's vol temporary. when the government does, it's taking our resources and playing politics with it. it's about trade barrier, stealing our intellectual property rights, what both candidates should be focused on, not this thing about who invests more in china. >> david: if it's private money, may it go where it will. private investors are free to do with their money, but not my money, not my tax dollars. >> i hav no allergic relax to governor romney investing in china, if that's what he wants to do. the issue is he makes these investments, goes out on the campaign trail, trashes china, tells us these things he's going to get tough about, when we know he's never going to do any of it. >> david: how do we know any of it, by the way? >> we don't know it, but i'm pretty darn sure. here's the most interesting part, when he finally releases his tax return, we see he quickly sold off the investment he had because he looked guilty. that's kind of silly, isn't it? like the kid getting caught with his hand in the
romney, what he does it's vol temporary. when the government does, it's taking our resources and playing politics with it. it's about trade barrier, stealing our intellectual property rights, what both candidates should be focused on, not this thing about who invests more in china. >> david: if it's private money, may it go where it will. private investors are free to do with their money, but not my money, not my tax dollars. >> i hav no allergic relax to governor romney investing...
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romney tax plan? >> it increases take-home pay, middle class family, $2,000 extra in their take-home pay, and more importantly it reduces the price of doing work, being productive and taking risks. lowering that price, lowering tax rates. that's the way to get the economy going. worked for kennedy, for reagan, worked in the early part of the last decade. it will work again. >> we have to do something. since the recovery began, by the way, june 2009, household incomes are down 5.7%. that's since the recovery. when you're in a recovery, incomes are supposed to go up. >> yeah. what's disstressing and concerning is, at this point i don't know what governor romney has in mind. he's been saying all along he'll reduce taxes and shows up in ohio -- >> reducing tax rates. >> he shows up and says don't expect a huge tax cut, because what he's doing is lowering deductions and exemptions. great. i wonder if somebody will get around to telling me what those deductions and exemptions are that he's going to lower. h
romney tax plan? >> it increases take-home pay, middle class family, $2,000 extra in their take-home pay, and more importantly it reduces the price of doing work, being productive and taking risks. lowering that price, lowering tax rates. that's the way to get the economy going. worked for kennedy, for reagan, worked in the early part of the last decade. it will work again. >> we have to do something. since the recovery began, by the way, june 2009, household incomes are down 5.7%....
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[laughter] all both the romney campaign could use some of that. some polls are distorted because of the sample. so many are based on a sample of voters that is even more than 2008. i think mitt romney is a little bit behind but he needs a and intervening event to move ahead and the debate this a good time to achieve one. >> that is when you will start seeing things moved after that bourse debate mitt romney will talk about factual information with the media does not want americans to no-space expectations are so low he does not have to win in order to win. we need to pull outside of urban america. everybody is not skewed in one direction or the other i don't think obama will win this blown away. lou: will it get tighter with the benghazi murders and terrorist attacks that the white house tries to cover up stonewalling the press and congress is a dangerous strategy? >> a more facts that come out is a tragic stage travesty. the ambassador to the wind sent us a video now we know al qaeda was involved. >> did we really know? >> the president said befo
[laughter] all both the romney campaign could use some of that. some polls are distorted because of the sample. so many are based on a sample of voters that is even more than 2008. i think mitt romney is a little bit behind but he needs a and intervening event to move ahead and the debate this a good time to achieve one. >> that is when you will start seeing things moved after that bourse debate mitt romney will talk about factual information with the media does not want americans to...
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which is romney, that is romney's strongest age demographic. debbie, let's talk about this. how much stock do the campaigns put into polls, especially this close toe election day? how reliable are those polls when you factor in access to varied demographics? do voters pay attention to these polls? >> i have a theory on polling. i'm gonna get my doctorate some day and write it on this. polls are a snapshot in time, there are so many polls, and they drive things they should not drive. both campaigns have sophisticated people that know how to read polling and take it into account. some let it drive the news media, sometimes it drives fundraising in a way it shouldn't. the fact of the matter is, it is a snapshot in time. i keep reminding people of two elections one was michigan in 1990. the free press detroit news had polls taken out on governor ambulance char's campaign -- governor blanch's campaign, he lost. >> arthel: ron how important are the polls do voters pay attention? >> voters definitely pay attention to polls, they hear a lot about polls there's been a lot of media hy
which is romney, that is romney's strongest age demographic. debbie, let's talk about this. how much stock do the campaigns put into polls, especially this close toe election day? how reliable are those polls when you factor in access to varied demographics? do voters pay attention to these polls? >> i have a theory on polling. i'm gonna get my doctorate some day and write it on this. polls are a snapshot in time, there are so many polls, and they drive things they should not drive. both...
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fox news poll has romney down five points. it suggests romney is down. pat who is not a republican and pollster, says, look, what the media are doing is hitting hard and spending their own money and deciding to spend money on polls in virginia and ohio states where obama is clearly clobbering romney. see, he is 8 points. he miss be losing nationwide. it's not completely wrong but it's to create a bandwagon effect that romney is a goner. >> rick: do you agree with him that we're going to hear tightening of the race and that is because the media wants to generated ratings or because there is a guilt on the mainstream media, maybe we should be covering this a little more fairly than we have bon been. you are shaking your head no? >> i do think media polls can be a little skewed. i have a friend that used to do it. ding, it's been cooked and here is what you wanted. the thing is, there is bias but it's evenly split. some are weighted towards republicans and some are weighted towards democrats so the real clear politics average so romney is down about four po
fox news poll has romney down five points. it suggests romney is down. pat who is not a republican and pollster, says, look, what the media are doing is hitting hard and spending their own money and deciding to spend money on polls in virginia and ohio states where obama is clearly clobbering romney. see, he is 8 points. he miss be losing nationwide. it's not completely wrong but it's to create a bandwagon effect that romney is a goner. >> rick: do you agree with him that we're going to...
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they've had substantially less time to prepare than mitt romney. mitt romney devoted three full days in vermont to debate preparations. the president is lucky to be able to devote three consecutive hours to debate preparation. >> it is something that you have to do to lower the expectations, because expectations are running quite high on both sides about the debate itself, what we can expect to see. >> well, i think everybody's expectations are running high. generally challengers win the first debate, especially against incumbents, because incumbents have not had the opportunity to debate in several years. >> you're already conceding the challenger might win this debate? >> i think there's a good chance governor romney will win this debate. look, he won virtually every debate during the republican primaries. he actually dispatched no newt gingrich, demolishe demolished e florida debate. the president is very good at delivering a message to the american people, but generally more like you saw at the democraticn, in kind of a longer format. it's goin
they've had substantially less time to prepare than mitt romney. mitt romney devoted three full days in vermont to debate preparations. the president is lucky to be able to devote three consecutive hours to debate preparation. >> it is something that you have to do to lower the expectations, because expectations are running quite high on both sides about the debate itself, what we can expect to see. >> well, i think everybody's expectations are running high. generally challengers...
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on the day that mitt romney was under attack by everybody, steve croft asking obama if mitt romney screw up -- that is the kind of thing that cbs is not holding him accountable. both candidates will do the syrupy things but mitt romney is doing press conferences and obama has not been doing press conferences. you can look at the research on this. president obama has done more one-on-one said downs then press conferences. he likes to control the message and he would rather sit down with barbara walters and have her ask them what superpower he would like to have. host: fredericksburg, va., an airline for democrats -- -- on our line for democrats -- caller: i get tired of them talking about liberal, biased media. if there was, do you think they will allow george bush' to set p the war on allied? a lie? our country wanted to collapse, how many economic speculative to they have and the network? none of them do this? they talk about the kindness of mitt romney because he is a preacher -- printer or bishops at this church. isa pasture -- but pastor's not help his flock, you need to find another
on the day that mitt romney was under attack by everybody, steve croft asking obama if mitt romney screw up -- that is the kind of thing that cbs is not holding him accountable. both candidates will do the syrupy things but mitt romney is doing press conferences and obama has not been doing press conferences. you can look at the research on this. president obama has done more one-on-one said downs then press conferences. he likes to control the message and he would rather sit down with barbara...
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advantage given to mitt romney. not surprise that president obama would have been forth right instead of trying to cover his butt, maybe it wouldn't have happened. we wouldn't have four americans dead if they would have done the job. >> bob: that is one of the most outrageous statement us heard you say. if they had done the job before -- you're taking unnamed intelligence sources to make a stories based on that. >> andrea: ahead, filmmaker blamed for violence in the muslim world has been arrested. what was the alleged crime? we will tell you when we come back. hopefully bob will stop talking. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> greg: got to love "the who." nothing says presidential leadership like decisive action. that's what we saw last night with the producer of the anti-islam film arrested for violating probation. yes, this arrest has nothing to do with the fill that obama and crew pinned the middle east mob on. no, just a coon dense, it's it - coon dense. it's all about probation. and i'm 5'10". the filmmaker gets no bai
advantage given to mitt romney. not surprise that president obama would have been forth right instead of trying to cover his butt, maybe it wouldn't have happened. we wouldn't have four americans dead if they would have done the job. >> bob: that is one of the most outrageous statement us heard you say. if they had done the job before -- you're taking unnamed intelligence sources to make a stories based on that. >> andrea: ahead, filmmaker blamed for violence in the muslim world has...
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here's how you get to the romney 270. he is going to win florida, and i know you follow the polls, some of you do. it says it neck-and-neck. the head back appoints. in fact of the sophisticated polling to run the is significantly ahead in florida, going to not have to put marco rubio on the ticket. it is a state that is fundamentally a republican state and growing more so as demographic changes continue to increase. the population from the northeast down and to florida. ohio, which is my home state, is pretty easy for me to predict. i go there a lot. going there on thursday for five days. at try and stay in touch, not with political elites in columbus, the the governor is a wonderful governor. i like to talk to, believe it or not, people in ohio, my hometown, uniontown, a democratic town, not an obama town. to they want the industry to continue unimpeded in its spread of wealth and jobs. the first to a new steel plants have opened in the last four years. they produce piping for the fracking industry which president obama
here's how you get to the romney 270. he is going to win florida, and i know you follow the polls, some of you do. it says it neck-and-neck. the head back appoints. in fact of the sophisticated polling to run the is significantly ahead in florida, going to not have to put marco rubio on the ticket. it is a state that is fundamentally a republican state and growing more so as demographic changes continue to increase. the population from the northeast down and to florida. ohio, which is my home...
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how well does mitt romney have to do for us to start writing the mitt romney comeback story? >> he has to do very well. he's in a race that's a five-point or six-point national decline on his part. he's losing in all of the electoral states. he does not want to get in a situation where this goes past him and he can't catch up. he's got to do it on october 3rd. and he has to do well. and i think the race will close. he'll show up and do reasonably well. but he has to do that. >> you have said in your online column that it's more about style than substance for him. why? >> if you take a look at the history of debates, it's not really about policy specifics. it's not really about facts. people have heard a lot about that. they've seen it. they've read it. it's more about the cues that indicate the personality or how they're going to be or mannerisms. every debate has changed because of somebody's mannerisms or style did badly or did well. that's where changes occur. >> going through the primaries, i believe he debated 20 times. in a lot of the debates, everybody was attacking hi
how well does mitt romney have to do for us to start writing the mitt romney comeback story? >> he has to do very well. he's in a race that's a five-point or six-point national decline on his part. he's losing in all of the electoral states. he does not want to get in a situation where this goes past him and he can't catch up. he's got to do it on october 3rd. and he has to do well. and i think the race will close. he'll show up and do reasonably well. but he has to do that. >> you...
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romney's 47% remark. let's play it. here it is. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has the responsibility to care for them, who believe that they're entitled to health care, and to food, to housing, to you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. and so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them. >> that is one tough ad. you're putting faces to those words. amie has the romney camp come up with any effective counter to it or is this going to be a theme for the next 38 days? >> i think it will be a theme for the next 38 days. they are trying to respond to it. you saw this week, he touted his health care law in massachusetts, which was a little awkward for him. but he's kind of showing that he does have an empathetic side. but meanwhile the obama campaign is also coming back. they're releasing new web ad this morning. they're slamming h
romney's 47% remark. let's play it. here it is. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has the responsibility to care for them, who believe that they're entitled to health care, and to food, to housing, to you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. and so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them....
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he has done a good job of disqualifying mitt romney and he is working against that and romney needs to get back to all the voters who might think he is not as qualified to be president and prove to that he is. >> gregg: i'm struck by the number of pundits and journalists that sort of pro nourng nounsing this race as over -- pronouncing this race as over. they said undecided voters historically choose the challenger. you would expect the remaining undecided voters to break not exclusively but disproportionately for mitt romney rather than president obama. does that make the debates all the more relevant and vital? >> no question about it. i would pointed out to you in a lot of these swing states, president obama is getting up to about 50% getting close and in some states he is just about over. it doesn't matter necessarily if there is a 4-point difference if he is reaching the 50% mark he is good shape. a lot of these voters are still waiting to see what mitt romney will bring. i talked to undecided voter in ohio the other day and he said he has taken his kids to president obama's ralli
he has done a good job of disqualifying mitt romney and he is working against that and romney needs to get back to all the voters who might think he is not as qualified to be president and prove to that he is. >> gregg: i'm struck by the number of pundits and journalists that sort of pro nourng nounsing this race as over -- pronouncing this race as over. they said undecided voters historically choose the challenger. you would expect the remaining undecided voters to break not exclusively...
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pounding the daylights out of him, and romney's or -- >> sean: i don't get it. i don't know why we're not seeing more pounding by him. do you think it starts next wednesday in colorado? >> sometimes he says positive things about obama. he cares about the middle class. no, barack obama doesn't care about the middle class. if he cared about the middle class, he wouldn't be putting through obama tax hikes on people in the middle class. >> let me just say that next wednesday night, this is it. they need to turn this campaign around. debates are vehicles of challengers. this is his chance to do this. >> sean: we need the mitt romney that showed up after losing south carolina, where he went into that state up double digits, and came out winning by double digits -- i'm sorry -- lost by double digits, then went to florida and had two debates with newt, that's the romney i want. >> the one-on-one debate forum is not necessarily president obama's best either. they've been after him for $700 million on character. the american people get 90 minutes to see whether or not tha
pounding the daylights out of him, and romney's or -- >> sean: i don't get it. i don't know why we're not seeing more pounding by him. do you think it starts next wednesday in colorado? >> sometimes he says positive things about obama. he cares about the middle class. no, barack obama doesn't care about the middle class. if he cared about the middle class, he wouldn't be putting through obama tax hikes on people in the middle class. >> let me just say that next wednesday...
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we the ask governor huckabee will romney try to be funny? >>alisyn: clay done was one of the funniest in new york. we will talk about that soon. there were phone calls between binyamin netanyahu, president obama calling netanyahu a mid-criticism for not meeting with him in person this week. the white house says they agreed that both countries must stop iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. mitt romney speaking with netanyahu about the country's greatest national security threat. >> we have very much the same interests to make sure iran does not develop nuclear capability which would threaten the existence of israel. the threat, devastation, potentially of israel and other nations of the world. we must make every effort to prevent that from developing that nuclear capability. >> he has called for crippling sanctions to be put in place. >> the u.s. admitting they lost track of some of syria's chemical weapons and cannot rule out their ran or syrian rebels have them. >> there has been intelligence that there have been some moves that have taken
we the ask governor huckabee will romney try to be funny? >>alisyn: clay done was one of the funniest in new york. we will talk about that soon. there were phone calls between binyamin netanyahu, president obama calling netanyahu a mid-criticism for not meeting with him in person this week. the white house says they agreed that both countries must stop iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. mitt romney speaking with netanyahu about the country's greatest national security threat. >>...
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romney will repeal that. ryan says that too. it looked to me like that was working, that they were actually managing to sort of get to the president's left on medicare and attack him and say the president's going to cut your medicare, we're going to protect it. i don't know why it's not still working. >> here's why. so they've decided they're going to pick this fight on medicare. it's a bizarre fight they picked for the reasons you named. clearly they're the party that wants to shrink the entitlement state. you have to see what they say behind closed doors or read conservative blogs. we know what the conservative apparatus in the republican party thinks about the entitlement state. they want to say we're going to be more extravagant to you seniors. they made the mistake of picking a fight on an issue that the democrats have reputational capital built up over time. it's not sustainable. if democrats went out and convinced them that they were the party that would give tax cuts to the rich, it would not be possible. it's not credib
romney will repeal that. ryan says that too. it looked to me like that was working, that they were actually managing to sort of get to the president's left on medicare and attack him and say the president's going to cut your medicare, we're going to protect it. i don't know why it's not still working. >> here's why. so they've decided they're going to pick this fight on medicare. it's a bizarre fight they picked for the reasons you named. clearly they're the party that wants to shrink the...
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i think the president's going to w but let's assume governor romney won. if he wins, that almost certainly means the republicans will hold on to the house and it will be about 50/50 in the senate, more or less the way it is now. you can't filibuster a budget. it's the only thing that doesn't require 60 votes in the senate to pass o as opposed to 51. so a lot of the policymaking will be pushed into the budget and he'll just have to pick up one or two people on that. if you assume that he is going to do what he said he's going to do, i think a lot of his priorities will be enacted. and i think it will be bad on the budget side, as i said. including for medicare t will drive the medicare trust fund out-- dry up the money by 2016. if what i think is going to happen happens and president obama wins, i think that too will break the logjam for a different reason. as senator mcconnell says their number one goal for the last four years has been denying him a second term. as soon as he gets that, they can't deny him a third term. he can't have one anyway. so i think
i think the president's going to w but let's assume governor romney won. if he wins, that almost certainly means the republicans will hold on to the house and it will be about 50/50 in the senate, more or less the way it is now. you can't filibuster a budget. it's the only thing that doesn't require 60 votes in the senate to pass o as opposed to 51. so a lot of the policymaking will be pushed into the budget and he'll just have to pick up one or two people on that. if you assume that he is...
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yeah, when mitt romney heard that, he was shocked. he was like, "you guys were living off only a billion dollars?" [ laughter ] "this is a problem with -- how do you do that?" [ laughter ] "you only have two rolls-royces? you've got to be kidding." you guys hear about this? mahmoud ahmadinejad's entourage stopped at costco while they were in new york city this week. that must've been rad, yeah. [ laughter ] him walking around going -- [ in middle eastern accent ] >> "who needs all these paper towels? i mean, what are you going to do with all these?" [ laughter ] "even brawny wouldn't wipe his own go-gurt? that is -- 20% of go-gurt? you got to have all those out." [ laughter ] "i don't need boysenberry, bro. but that's good. you put it in the freezer." >> steve: yeah, freeze it up. >> jimmy: --that frozen go-gurt." >> steve: "everybody have go-gurt to go. i've got to go, go, go-gurt." [ laughter ] >> jimmy: hey, check this out, you guys. a new study found that kids drink 7 trillion calories worth of sugar every year. [ laughter ] or as
yeah, when mitt romney heard that, he was shocked. he was like, "you guys were living off only a billion dollars?" [ laughter ] "this is a problem with -- how do you do that?" [ laughter ] "you only have two rolls-royces? you've got to be kidding." you guys hear about this? mahmoud ahmadinejad's entourage stopped at costco while they were in new york city this week. that must've been rad, yeah. [ laughter ] him walking around going -- [ in middle eastern accent ]...
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what's the romney-ryan strategy in these key states? >> last hour when i joined you, this place was packed. it was noisy. and pretty quiet right now. the only people left are myself and photo journalist bob crowley. now he's moved on to ohio. what is the strategy? a lot of what you saw today, a lot of rallies to make sure the republican supporters and other independent voters here in new hampshire listen to what they have to say. lot of the strategy is also television commercials. and what you don't see, doesn't get a lot of news but is really important is the so called ground game. the field operations that the campaigns have in these states like here in new hampshire and in ohio where ryan goes later today. what's the polling look like here in new hampshire? take a look at this. this is from american research group. it's the most recent poll here in new hampshire. you can see the president with a five-point advantage. that's within the sampling area, so it's still pretty close here in new hampshire in the battle for this state's four
what's the romney-ryan strategy in these key states? >> last hour when i joined you, this place was packed. it was noisy. and pretty quiet right now. the only people left are myself and photo journalist bob crowley. now he's moved on to ohio. what is the strategy? a lot of what you saw today, a lot of rallies to make sure the republican supporters and other independent voters here in new hampshire listen to what they have to say. lot of the strategy is also television commercials. and...
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romney and mr. ryan are saying about obama and bided our true and medicare, why would the american medical association and doris our policy? why would the american hospital association and most important, why would aarp endorse this? [applause] that have no credibility. on this issue. secondly, what they don't tell you is equally important to what they tell you. they don't tell you what they would do about medicare. the first thing they would do if they took the action they are proposing to take were they to win, you would eliminate the new benefits, $800 more for prescription drugs, which visits, it would also move medicare trust fund insolvency to 2016, three years from now. the third the is what they don't want to talk about. they don't want to tell you they are for medicare. they are for a voucher-care. they say it will affect anybody on medicare now. it will not kick in for 10 years. if you are 55 years old, it will kick in. a couple of years ago, the intellectual right laid down a proposal --
romney and mr. ryan are saying about obama and bided our true and medicare, why would the american medical association and doris our policy? why would the american hospital association and most important, why would aarp endorse this? [applause] that have no credibility. on this issue. secondly, what they don't tell you is equally important to what they tell you. they don't tell you what they would do about medicare. the first thing they would do if they took the action they are proposing to...
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mitt romney was wall street's big candidate. a former private equity exec who who -- many masters of the universe can see they may not get their man. the broader landscape of corporate america even strong supporters of romney acknowledge that swing state polling numbers in the direction of economic data and markets adjust its time to brace for a second obama term. i want to ask you also about using the word brace in this story. jaczko yeah, i mean i think you know the president has had an antagonistic relationship with business. i think that's pretty clear and so he did over the last several months i think lose the independent vote and certainly the business vote and so the number show he is actually winning i could understand that now they are disappointed it does they were counting on the competition, but i don't think you can really tell right now. i mean it's hard to know how accurate these polls are. in some cases i think the media is pulling democrat and in other cases i think people, they don't necessarily tell you what t
mitt romney was wall street's big candidate. a former private equity exec who who -- many masters of the universe can see they may not get their man. the broader landscape of corporate america even strong supporters of romney acknowledge that swing state polling numbers in the direction of economic data and markets adjust its time to brace for a second obama term. i want to ask you also about using the word brace in this story. jaczko yeah, i mean i think you know the president has had an...
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they could've done something about it, but then romney is complying with the tax cut he created. secondly, how can bill clinton get away with claiming that the republicans were the ones who deregulated and created the real estate and financial problems when he repealed glass-steagall in 1999. i was the underpinning and away the whole problem. i would say a sushi pointer to because in 10 short years, all the big banks, almost all of them went under. so i just wonder how he can get away with that. that is one of the hallmarks that gave the campaign a bump for bill clinton's speech. is he just not want to admit it? or does he just know that people won't care or following research this? how does you make that statement front of everyone? >> host: maria bartiromo. >> guest: we are in political season. it's political folk all, all politics. and so, number one on the tax code, yes, that is what i just said. i agree with that. what could have seen change over the last three years of her going to complain about people not paying their fair share, change the tax code. it is all legal. if t
they could've done something about it, but then romney is complying with the tax cut he created. secondly, how can bill clinton get away with claiming that the republicans were the ones who deregulated and created the real estate and financial problems when he repealed glass-steagall in 1999. i was the underpinning and away the whole problem. i would say a sushi pointer to because in 10 short years, all the big banks, almost all of them went under. so i just wonder how he can get away with...
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i will say that ann romney is feisty. i love what she did because it is so he a man at the helm tamp they don't her down too much. -- because she is so human, i hope they don't tamp her down too much. she is looking right at you, our eyes are not batting around. she is focused. i said, you seem unflappable. she said, i'm less flappable that last time around. i am tough. her husband has to be so controlled at all times, she sees herself as someone that can speak up for him. i love it. >> anybody have a question? >> [inaudible] i was wondering about fact checking in truth telling, in the same way they had viral moments where they pushed back. i have seen you do it, too. what about your vote on this? q. you think it has been a constructive conversation? and does it encourage you to push back when you are dealing with the campaign? >> i think it has always been our job. i have worked in columbus ohio at albany, new york. they are very political cities with a high-profile governors. to some extent, you have to put that out of
i will say that ann romney is feisty. i love what she did because it is so he a man at the helm tamp they don't her down too much. -- because she is so human, i hope they don't tamp her down too much. she is looking right at you, our eyes are not batting around. she is focused. i said, you seem unflappable. she said, i'm less flappable that last time around. i am tough. her husband has to be so controlled at all times, she sees herself as someone that can speak up for him. i love it. >>...